We need to figure out (or someone needs to introduce me to..) a good alternative to Facebook Events ASAP.
I briefly reactivated my FB account (because reasons) and stumbled across a public lecture about Thomas Sankara, and an event put on by the Chilean embassy about Project Cybersyn. And it's an absolute crime that Facebook is the only way to discover these.
@paulfree14 @neil hubzilla is kind of meh
@neil @ghost @a_breakin_glass
there might come a new theme during this year.
Being happy to hear suggestions what should be improofed and what sucks/ is meh.
@paulfree14 @neil @ghost @a_breakin_glass Ok, 1) I go to the hubzilla web page and there's no way to get an account and log in. No indication (to a non-dev user) of how this thing is supposed to work or what it does. So.. yeah, not having enough users is what I would expect.
There is - where it says Hubzilla >> Start. It gets kind of overshadowed by the other two CTAs though.
But then the text on the next page is very dev focused.
@paulfree14 @ghost @a_breakin_glass https://social.coop/media/Fx0fFxmZ3tNs2WCKxWo https://social.coop/media/H1QYThbsKR4Hmep5qfM
Interesting to think whether early-stage projects should be public-focused or not. e.g. indieweb has this idea of generations, basically realising that until a lot of underlying tech and user journeys are figured out, perhaps there is not that much point pushing for wider adoption. (https://indieweb.org/generations)
On the other hand, I'd guess a lot of Mastodon's success has come from having a good UI from the get go.
@neil @paulfree14 @ghost @a_breakin_glass Yeah, I understand wanting to hide your project until you feel that it is ready. But if you cut off user input and user-focused design from the get-go you end up with something technically awesome that no one but your close tech friends uses. Your early spec should include how the tool will be easy for non-technical people to discover, adopt, and use, and your team should include designers, otherwise what you're building is an internal tool.
@neil @paulfree14 @ghost @a_breakin_glass But yeah, I can show people mastodon and they "get" it, and want to join. Although for some figuring out how to do that becomes a challenge. (I keep meaning to look into invitations and see if that makes things easier.)
For hubzilla, what the public needs to see is:
- you can do events
- we won't sell your data
- no ads
- we won't muck with your feed
- nothing about "common webserver technology"
Integration-related stuff goes on a dev page, imho.
@neil @paulfree14 @ghost has some further points about the UI being obscure asf