“Google Has Most of My Email Because It Has All of Yours”: the story of how a person with their own mail server still ends up having Google able to read half their mail https://mako.cc/copyrighteous/google-has-most-of-my-email-because-it-has-all-of-yours #Email #Privacy
@queerhackerwitch I'm in a similar boat. I've been spending part of the weekend looking at #ProtonMail only to find it's missing off-domain forwarding, which is unfortunately a blocker for me. cf. https://cybre.space/@zigg/99984297346474626
Some days I think we should just let email burn, but it's such a lingua franca for the Internet.
@zigg I’d say let it burn if we had a suitable replacement in progress. I don’t receive very much personal e-mail though, most of it is online shopping receipts, ebilling notifications, and the like.
@queerhackerwitch @zigg sudo pkg remove email
@zigg
You may want to check https://tutanota.com
I have registered few days back and it is very good in my experience and does have the option of custom domain (for a euro per month I think)
@ankit @zigg @queerhackerwitch
I second that suggestion. @Tutanota is very good!
This is a very big problem and illustrates why individuals opting out of #Google etc is not enough. The whole system has to be challenged and decentralised. Even though so many people are following through with #DeleteFacebook the company is still making record bloody profits.
@nick0515 @ankit @zigg @queerhackerwitch Thanks for the shout-out. If you have any question, let us know! :)
@zigg Did you ever find a solution that worked for you? I'm ready to pull the trigger on a replacement for my Google hosted e-mail and I'm finding that neither ProtonMail or Tutanota really meet my needs since I want something that I can access over IMAP that also allows a generous number of aliases or a catch all e-mail since I've got a bunch of them set up for services that don't support + addresses in e-mail.
@queerhackerwitch Unfortunately, no, I haven’t. 😞
@zigg Sure, but that's still better than Google having all of my mail 
@HalfTough Oh, certainly, but it becomes diminishing returns for the effort, especially because outgoing mail can vanish without a trace if it's not coming from one of the big providers 😣
@zigg This is a really big problem. Almost as big as "The government has most of my DNA because they have all of yours" when people submit their DNA to ancestry sites.
@zigg And did you know that Google proactively scans your email for stuff to report you to the government for? I'm only directly aware of their scanning for child pornography, but they have demonstrated both the capability and willingness to report people based on what's in their email.
@zigg
Convince everyone you know to ditch Gmail!
@dumpling I’ve been trying to warn people off Google for pretty much ever 😅
@zigg
That makes two of us!
@dumpling See, I knew I liked you 😁
@zigg I need to migrate my domain off of Google this month. It was a mistake to put it there in the first place. I’d really rather not have to go back to hosting my own again though.