they cannot kill the fediverse
this was the post that made me think something bad might happen to the fediverse btw https://chitter.xyz/@chosafine/104248716825012210
@vantablack that really probably wont touch the fediverse. those are laws affecting businesses, and only a part of the fediverse is a COMPANY.
Also fuck that guy. in the eye socket. with a pitchfork
A considerable part of the Fediverse is hosted well outside the USA, there there is 100% of jack shit Trump can do about any content there, unless he thinks its feasible to isolate USA internet from the rest of the World - which is not going to be that easy and could even cause commercial websites to stop working correctly and collapse the USA economy (as USA companies buy ads on the corporate European social networks, so need to communicate with them)
@vantablack I don't think the FCC (even with help of the NSA) have enough officers to go through every part of the Fediverse, find out who runs it, get content taken down etc.
A couple of weeks ago these boomers up the road from where I work blatantly ran a big illegal radio transmitter for about 2 days, strong enough to be heard in London (120km away), our Communications Ministry (Ofcom) couldn't do anything about it because of lockdown, and lack of resources...
@vantablack there's a very slim chance USA authorities could request ISPs to block "foreign Internet", but its more likely to be done with low tech methods like DNS poisoning that are easy to bypass - and would also requires the USA govt to spend tax money on public sector resources which many USA politicians hate doing...
@vfrmedia @vantablack I think the fediverse will survive whatever declarations The Orange Menace makes, but it's worth keeping an eye on what happens with section 230. Worst case: some US based instances might need to host from the EU or elsewhere.
Longer term, admins should also be thinking about hosting on onion addresses, but remaining on the clearnet if at all possible should be a primary aim due to accessibility.
In a way it's similar to what happened in Japan recently, where mastodon.jp and mastodon.cloud said they would close (I don't know if it's still the case) for the new Japanese regulation about content moderation, following Hana Kimura's death. Anyway, as long as an instance has robust financial support from their users, it will survive, overseas or else.
@vantablack it would take a lot to kill the fediverse.
enough of us here are stubborn and technically-minded enough that we could make this shit work
but i can't promise nothing can kill it, without it being a false promise
@vantablack Trump won't kill the fediverse. the executive order doesn't really change anything, it goes against a quarter-century of court precedent, and it's borderline unconstitutional. besides, the vast majority of instances are owned and operated by individuals, not companies; and there are many instances outside the USA.
@vantablack Being distributed I doubt that
I'm Australian with my servers in France so what can America do about that?
@vantablack nothing can kill the fediverse. The fediverse exists all around the world. This is why the fediverse was made.