@vantablack if internet is available but not connected, live Debian has wireless management and should automatically connect to ethernet if you plug it in. most cards are supported.

@vantablack if you've got an android phone, you can set it up as an access point and then plug it into the computer; it'll do ethernet over USB. it's good in a pinch but as a rule of thumb probably be careful before you trust a phone.

@vantablack @eta
What if you just emailed the drivers to yourself and then... oh wait

@vantablack Ugh. I felt that from 2012 up through 2016 with Ubuntu.

Luckily, now I can just plug in an old phone and use USB tethering to gain wifi access.

But seriously, Broadcom's Linux support is god-awful, and most wifi chips are made by them, that Ubuntu has a page dedicated specifically for them on their wiki. (A page which is now outdated because everyone just gave up trying to get them to work and just told everyone to spend more money for a "good" adapter instead.)

@vantablack uefi is even more fun

usb chip: is not supported by linux, without additional drivers (that are not on standard images)

Machine: boots from usb device, because uefi handles it

Linux kernel, all on its own now: How do I handle this. I can't do this!!!!

@vantablack

heh.

the best thing about this is how much stick debian gets for not requiring https on network installs.

which they do to make installing, for instance, on an isolated network from a cache or whatever, possible

@vantablack If you know what package you need, you can download the deb file on a different computer, put it on a flash drive, and install it from the deb file 🙂

@MadestMadness @vantablack Which works until the DEB install script tries to download something mid-install.

@trebach @vantablack Generally yes, but network drivers tend to stand alone for the most part, from what I've seem 🙂

@MadestMadness @vantablack At least one Broadcom wifi driver package downloads a blob in the middle of installation. I think the only reason they do it that way is because they can't legally include it in the package.

@trebach @vantablack Oh, seriously? Damn it 😕

Back to using a USB Ethernet dongle or a tethered phone, then 😕

@vantablack Some people often say that installing #LibresSoftwares on #proprietary #hardware is not working as expected.

But it often does not work, as expected.

😉

@vantablack Then USB tethering on your phone if you have a data plan. Or buy an USB-Ethernet adapter. Or download the driver's .deb on another computer and put it on an USB Stick….

@adam_black

@vantablack @adam_black Because my university only has an Apple store I have one of these apple.com/shop/product/MC704LL it's pretty useful to be get a modern ethernetless laptop connected.

Other thing you could do is download the driver debs to sd card, usb stick or a phone, connect to the machine in question and use dpkg -i <file>.deb to install them.

Otherwise good luck... installing can be a pain if you don't have a way of getting the drivers into the machine.

@alienghic @vantablack I often think that certain standards are depricated for reasons of greed. It will be a lot easier to prevent people from repurposing windows/mac systems to linux once eth and usb are "obsolete"

@adam_black @vantablack

I saw a story that the only way a company can show off its manufacturing skill is by making the laptop as thin as possible.

So they keep removing anything preventing them from making the laptop as thin as possible so ethernet ports are pretty big relative to the modern laptops...

@vantablack An computer administrator cas do anythong on and with a computer, but only if s·he can get an internet conneciton.

@vantablack
USB stick? And just like the old days, a second computer? Ü

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