me trying to install debian
@vantablack if internet is available but not connected, live Debian has wireless management and should automatically connect to ethernet if you plug it in. most cards are supported.
@vantablack if you've got an android phone, you can set it up as an access point and then plug it into the computer; it'll do ethernet over USB. it's good in a pinch but as a rule of thumb probably be careful before you trust a phone.
@vantablack Ugh. I felt that from 2012 up through 2016 with Ubuntu.
Luckily, now I can just plug in an old phone and use USB tethering to gain wifi access.
But seriously, Broadcom's Linux support is god-awful, and most wifi chips are made by them, that Ubuntu has a page dedicated specifically for them on their wiki. (A page which is now outdated because everyone just gave up trying to get them to work and just told everyone to spend more money for a "good" adapter instead.)
@vantablack uefi is even more fun
usb chip: is not supported by linux, without additional drivers (that are not on standard images)
Machine: boots from usb device, because uefi handles it
Linux kernel, all on its own now: How do I handle this. I can't do this!!!!
the best thing about this is how much stick debian gets for not requiring https on network installs.
which they do to make installing, for instance, on an isolated network from a cache or whatever, possible
@vantablack If you know what package you need, you can download the deb file on a different computer, put it on a flash drive, and install it from the deb file 🙂
@vantablack @adam_black Because my university only has an Apple store I have one of these https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MC704LL/A/apple-usb-ethernet-adapter it's pretty useful to be get a modern ethernetless laptop connected.
Other thing you could do is download the driver debs to sd card, usb stick or a phone, connect to the machine in question and use dpkg -i <file>.deb to install them.
Otherwise good luck... installing can be a pain if you don't have a way of getting the drivers into the machine.
I saw a story that the only way a company can show off its manufacturing skill is by making the laptop as thin as possible.
So they keep removing anything preventing them from making the laptop as thin as possible so ethernet ports are pretty big relative to the modern laptops...
@vantablack An computer administrator cas do anythong on and with a computer, but only if s·he can get an internet conneciton.
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