Hey,

Nobody wants to look at kiwifarms
Nobody wants to touch kiwifarms
It is a very bad pattern that on multiple occasions child sexual abuse (csa) survivors will come to trusted people in their communities for support and receive no accountability, and only when they eventually go to kiwifarms, which nobody wants to do, does someone believe them and try to do something about it.

That's A Bad Look. That's a failure on our part.

There's an incident now that's happened which I won't get into; but this is a Communal Pattern among furries, artists, our little queer communities. It happened with shrmoky. It's happening again with purplekecleon/glitchedpuppet/whatever.

Remember how Lowtax knew shmorky was a pedo for YEARS and nobody did anything about? Nobody listened until the survivor caved and went to kiwifarms? How there was ameme making fun of The Survivor?!

It's really difficult for survivors to come forward about abuse from popular artists. It's *extremely* difficult when you're a youth coming forward about an older adult who has authority, maturing, social knowledge, and can easily EASILY gaslight you and write you off as lying.

Our instinct should be to believe survivors. Period.

I've gone on and on about how I'm a 51a mandatory reporter. How I'm legally obligated to be on the lookout for child abuse.

Usually I bring this up as a way to say "don't say stuff to me you wouldn't say to your highschool unless you want me to take action"

but in this context it's to say *I've been trained in recognizing and taking action surrounding child abuse* and looking at the situation it's a fucking shame what you're all doing

The way CSA survivors behave as youth and as adults is completely in line with how the survivors coming forward are behaving. They posted this stuff in other locations *before* going to kiwifarms. There's solid evidence for a lot of the shit going around. There's no evidence that kiwifarms doctored any of it.

Kiwifarms shouldn't be having more sympathy for survivors than all of you.

I know that a lot of us are friends with one or two of the people being implicated in the call-out posts.

We shouldn't be blindly deciding it's all lies because of that.

Doxxing is bad. dont' share doxxes. But for fucks sake there are CSA survivors in the Mastodon community and if we want to be a safe community for them to we shouldn't be fucking denying it when we hear about CSA

I've been trained in what you do when someone comes to you and says an adult has been doing inappropriate shit to them

You start with "That's horrible"
You start with "Can I ask you some more questions? I'm going to have to report this if that's alright"

You make yourself into a trusted adult for that child.

And I know "call-out culture sucks" but this isn't fucking "Nicki Minaj called someone a stupid hoe" this is CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE

There's a huge fucking difference between "masterlist of minorly problematic shit this person said" and "This person is a known child pornographer"

Let me repeat that

There is a difference between "Your fave is problematic: Amy Poehler" and "This member of our community grooms children into creating child pornography"

A call-In of "Hey bud wanna think about that and apologize?" DOESN'T FUCKING WORK in that instance

It's cliche but THINK OF THE FUCKING CHILDREN

This is about removing social power from someone.

Now a friend of ours who got implicated in some chatlogs because of a mistake with how they handled the news? That's a mistake. That's something you can learn and apologize from

But the main incident, the prominent artists?

Stop fucking defending them there's years of evidence