It really annoys me when people say that they are for human rights, but that they want to torture or kill their enemies... Whatever happened to having principles?
@raspberry_boy It's less a matter of principle and more a concrete fact. Of course I would prefer to have the least amount of violence possible, but I also recognize it as necessary, especially because whoever we are opposing will be a lot less hesitant to use violence to their defense
@luna Though I also recognise that violence is sometimes necessary, remember that people only need to defend themselves when they are being attacked. I really hope your plan isn't going around attacking people...
Similarly, is it violent to say "I'll punch you in the face if you smoke this joint" vs "the cops will arrest you and throw you in jail if you smoke this joint"
A revolution is self-defense, we've just been made too accustomed to the constant violence to see it as such
@raspberry_boy @dragon @luna no, reveling in violence is still wrong.
Crimethinc has a good essay on it.
@dragon @raspberry_boy to clarify, i know those are different in important ways, but they are examples people know. the problem is not that people make jokes at the expense of rich people, but that they joke about brutally murdering their enemies.
by all means knock Bezos down a few dozen pegs, just don't start a reign of terror.
tbh i don't think him dying would change much and if the social structures that protect him are no longer in place, killing him wouldn't even be needed. wouldn't object to locking him up tho.
and like, i thought we agreed that retributive justice doesn't really work all that well.
some coercion is necessary for justice, but that's not the same as "let's make an example out of this person".