The current run of disposable plastic drinking straws is bad for the usual eco reasons, but the alternatives aren't so great for other reasons:

- Ryegrass straws tend to turn to mush in your drink and make everything taste like grass.

- Paper straws are reportedly making everything taste like paper.

Looks like whatever the alternative will be it'll have to be low cost, durable, eco friendly and not leave an aftertaste. :think_unamused:

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@polychrome there's also reed drinking straws here, they're reusable, like metal straws for example

@rice reusable are a sane option but it's an issue for businesses built around the "hand beverage and forget" model. Which is why I'm pondering eco friendly disposable alternatives that won't suck (pardon the pun :blobwoah: )

@polychrome yeah.

Maybe having reusable coffee cups that you can carry around yourself and having the coffee places fill it for you

Can't imagine anything of the sort ever becoming mainstream

But there's probably a couple biodegradable polymers that don't give much of an aftertaste

@rice actually I think it'd be possible to push the idea of people carrying personalized drinking cups to places on grounds of vanity / status, especially if the places promote these on that basis.

But that'll only work to reduce the use of disposable straws, not so much end it. So, yeah. Proper material/method need to be found. :thaenkin:

@rice @polychrome I read that metal and glass straws are a problem for some people with disabilities though, due to those not being flexible

@Altarof_Patatoes @rice they'll have to be flexible and I don't consider metal disposable.

@polychrome we went to a Mc Donalds for the first time in a while; paper straws and no napkins and yet they still have the disposable paper insert on the plastic trays...

I personally didn't have any issue with the paper straw, no noticeable difference in flavour and lasted longer than it took me to finish the meal and we were there for nearly 40 minutes.

@carbontwelve that's encouraging! I guess paper tech did improve since WWII :blobcheeky:

@polychrome to be fair to the detractors if you chew the tip of a paper straw then it will begin to unravel and I know some people have a preference to the mouth feel of plastic straws over paper.

I heard on the radio yesterday that the paper straw industry is surprisingly young, it's an area of materials science that has had little interest or investment up until the past few years.

@polychrome I was reading the other day that non plastic bags often take more resources than plastic, wouldn't be surprised if this is also the case for non plastic straws


tungsten. it will last all your life, and if it gets blocked, you can clear it with an oxyacetylene torch.

@Nikolai_Kingsley I like where this is going :owosneakythink:

Now if we could only make it bend..


uh... universal joint? there has to be a way to make that watertight.

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