i’m convinced there are numerous non-human sapient species on earth but an anthropocentrism practiced at scale denies us the opportunity to discover or explore these frontiers

it’s been shown that you can teach various species intermediary languages (amy the gorilla speaking sign language, for instance) so pure translation matrices aren’t necessary for meaningful communication. moreover peoples around the world have historically developed complex material relationships with animal communities using what can be considered gift economies. for instance it’s actually pretty simple to establish trade relationships with crows 🐦

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for those wondering how to establish trade relations with crows:

- feed crows food A regularly
- when crows decide to bring you gifts, feed them food B
- when crows bring you different categories of gifts, feed them a food-per-category, ex: food C for jewelry, food D for paper money, etc
- crows will recognize these exchange patterns and opt to bring you things in order to acquire desired treats

good luck! 🐦

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@garbados
I wonder if you can do something similar with octopuses... 🐙

@InvaderXan @garbados I have a feeling octopuses would figure out a way to hack their reward function

@garbados @InvaderXan I think an octopus would figure out a way to circumvent your rewarding somehow

I'm not sure myself, I'm not as smart as an octopus

@pagrus @garbados @InvaderXan octopuses are probably the closest we've got to an alien intelligence on Earth beside birds. They're incredibly intelligent.

@polychrome @pagrus @garbados
Also a remarkable example of convergent evolution – their eyes work in the same way as ours despite their evolutionary line separating off long before our eyes evolved.

Cephalopods fascinate me for a lot of reasons.

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@InvaderXan @pagrus @garbados I remember reading that they were generally disinterested in video playbacks until they were arranged a high-fps footage and display because they can see at a much higher fps than we do, so our usual stuff looks like a high speed gallery show instead of anything resembling movement.

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@polychrome @pagrus @garbados
Oh, that’s interesting. Do you remember where you read that?

@InvaderXan @pagrus @garbados a random website, I'm sure Google can find something similar.

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