Interesting thread, though I'm not sure it was Reality TV that did all the breaking. I think the 1980s-90s removal of all social safety catches on capitalism pushed us to 'everyone competes'

<<Been pushing around some concepts about current culture today in my head, centered around reality television breaking our society. Notions of nuance, de-escalation, humility, and common service have been completely turned around by reality “TV” in favor of engineered conflict. >>

And I'm still not over my angry that it was the so-called *left*, as much as the right, that completely bought into the 'competition and individualism are good for the soul, y'all, cooperation just makes you weak and soft' mantra.

I know anger isn't helpful and so I want to be over it. But I'm not, yet.

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But the OP's thesis that Reality TV is fundamentally bad for us, that it artificially creates conflict and makes conflict fun... that I agree with. It's why I avoid the genre wherever possible. I just hate seeing people fight each other when they could work together.

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I am still completely gobsmacked each time I think about Ayn Rand and realise, again, that there was a dedicated, organised movement in American culture since the 1950s to literally *call empathy and altruism evil*. To make people less loving. And that very high ranking politicians, businesspeople.... and religious leaders, who know and teach better... bought into it.

That stuns me. Still does. Every time.

How. How did that happen? How did we let these people, this ideology, run our society?

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@natecull I always point people at 2 books: The Gulag Archipelago, and The Great Terror: A Reassessment. That could've happened here, too.

As far as I'm concerned, both parties are evil and would create tyranny. Happily they waste all energy fighting each other for control first, and it's essential to let neither win.

@mdhughes I share your fear about the experience of Communism. It was not a step forward.

But Soviet Communism and gangster capitalism are not the two only options for organising a society.

I also don't consider mainstream political parties to be evil.

I do, however, think that something particularly unusually bad is occurring in today's right-wing parties, while today's 'left' parties are mostly holding to what used to be the old center.

@mdhughes @natecull Your species lives in a bizarre hell-world. Why not appoint an immortal sun goddess to keep peace?

(No, we’re not offering an invasion: Equestria keeps our hooves busy enough as it is)

@Celestia @natecull They tried the immortal sun-goddess Amaterasu in Japan, and had 2000 years of continuous civil war.

Blood for the pony god!

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