RMS/ESR/etc. are very deeply flawed, and rather unsuitable as figureheads for their ideas.

this doesn't mean software freedom is somehow bad, and it doesn't mean we should frame social movements as being fundamentally at odds with it by association.

I am extremely suspect of people (esp. on birb) sowing discontent with such broad scope.

it's extremely useful for tech corporations if the core principles of copyleft get dragged through the mud. let's not align with them either.

I think we need more - and more focus on - alternative orgs to the FSF, aligned with their primary goals, but with leadership consisting primarily of people of color, queers, women, people with disabilities.

to actually demonstrate that software freedom is instrumental in people freedom, when it comes to empowering those marginalized folks that tech companies would likely suppress.

much of our fediverse's software - and many of its denizens - demonstrate these properties.

@lifning I think someone really ought to write an alternative strong copy-left license that is not incompatible with, but is distinct from the GPL, mostly to avoid seceding all moral power to the FSF, partially because more choices are always good.

@oct2pus @lifning

I would plaude to such organisation... despite the fact I would not be much welcome there (I'm a white cis male, and there's nothing I can do about it).
I would plaude even more an organisation that welcome everybody without making them feel the need to be something else.

But I really think that differences enrich everybody and we should be able to work together and peacefully discuss and even joke about them.

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@oct2pus @lifning

But I think that there is something very sad in the current RMS issue.

I won't try to defend Stallmann even if I read the abort() doc and I just saw a joke against censorship.

What I hated is to see people arguing that politics should not be present in a free software manual, that it's not "professional".

Why? Because it could distract devs from producing profit? Because it could make them think about ethics? Or politics? Or feel responsible? /2

@wowaname @lifning @oct2pus
I'ma rather good #programmer, but that's a capitalist question. What I can #produce should not be relevant here. It is because #Capitalism is deeply radicated in our way of thinking.

Also I don't like a lot of GNU tools, their lack of design and their pointless complexity.

But everyone should realize it's not #software that qualify #FreeSoftware, but #freedom!

And #People uncomfortable to discuss #politics at work are #cultural #slaves!

@wowaname @oct2pus @lifning

I use programmer, software engineer, developer and software architect as synonymous because I'm all of these.

By cultural slave I meant slave (deprived of freedom) through cultural oppression producing homogeneity.

I care about #FreeSoftware quality: I write a #free OS to replace the whole crap that we use today (including browsers, tor, http).

But #GNU's mission is to spread #freedom through #software, not software through price!