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"Everything we do to make it harder to create a website or edit a web page, and harder to learn to code by viewing source, promotes that consumerist vision of the web.

Pretending that one needs a team of professionals to put simple articles online will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Overcomplicating the web means lifting up the ladder that used to make it possible for people to teach themselves and surprise everyone with unexpected new ideas."

idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm

@grainloom "Out of an abundance of love for the mobile web, Google has volunteered to run the infrastructure, especially the user tracking parts of it."
Snerk.

@grainloom

I agree to an extent, but I'm not sure it's any harder than it used to be to actually put stuff on the web. Certainly not text-based content anyway. I could still have a workflow the same today as when I set up my first blog in the early 00's.

Also, myself from back then would have been overjoyed at the amount of resources that are around now to teach you how to use it all.

@grainloom Actually, my experience is the exact opposite of the one in the quote. The proliferation of frameworks that promise to make it all oh so easy leads managers to think that programming is something that anybody can do. That makes our work economically undervalued and socially underappreciated, breaks teams apart (why do we need five people when just one intern can do it?) and yields awful results.

@grainloom i like this talk except for the rampant anti-fatness of the author >.> and so i hardly share it with ppl cos it could trigger em

@kit "beautiful websites come in all shapes and sizes" is I believe what it starts with, sooo
idk

to me it sounds more like a discussion of a medical condition / social issue

which could still be triggering but i didn't consider it phobic while reading it 🤷

but idk, maybe i missed something

@grainloom Really good article, but the page is so ugly. Simple, fast web pages don't have to look like 1998. Sell it better, mate.

@y6nH 🤷
looks fine to me

it's a text heavy site, the style fits that perfectly

@grainloom
Thank you. I just spend 1h watching a speech by Maciej Ceglowski about net getting fat and it was worth it. Brilliant talk! Here is the url:

webdirections.org/blog/the-web

I feel like it breeds classism and middle management job security.

@cachorro I don't ever want to use it or have anything to do with it.

@a_breakin_glass "Like all non­sense, it’s in­tended to be easy to swal­low."

is the smartest thing I've read all day

@grainloom As a person who doesn't know how to code, I was happy to discover the 'drag and drop' design thing at Wix. It gave me enough free space to create something different quite fast.

@gilscottfitzgerald since I don't have to log into it and I don't depend on it for crucial information I'm not super concerned about that 🤷

@grainloom i have so many mixed feelings about that essay.

@grainloom uh i dont remember exactly but i mostly stand by the same stuff i wrote in this tumblr post two years ago nightpool.tumblr.com/post/1365

@amphetamine (which bit? "Always Coming Home" or the header to my mobile layout?)

@nightpool that's interesting, same bridge design from foster city to hayward in the east SF bay

@er1n @grainloom my meta-level mixed feelings are mostly "maciej says some really smart stuff sometimes but he's also a huge asshole". for my specific mixed feelings on that essay see the linked tumblr post

@er1n @grainloom oh yeah his whole social media persona is built around being the biggest asshole around, in the typical infosec twitter way of "i get to be an asshole to people who are wrong and causing harm by being wrong". it's not THAT bad, but I definitely unfollowed him because it was getting really tiring seeing Today's Hot Take

@grainloom @er1n (maciej has mostly chilled out since he put his effort into actually really useful political organization, so i guess there's that)

@nightpool @grainloom okay actually i agree with some of your points but
wow

i might write about this sometime

@LottieVixen @er1n @grainloom i mean it's probably not that interesting unless you have specific opinions on HTTP requests and modern website optimization but I linked it in another reply to the root post.

@grainloom The web is all wrong. I'm glad more people are thinking and working to revert the situation.

@grainloom
Agreed. On a related note, the web browser should be a way to view content, not a replacement for your OS that works by downloading and executing arbitrary code on your machine. Simple web design is ethical web design.

That is so good article, it tells the obvious.

Wordpress -- let us acknowledge it as it is free software website revision system. And it is bloated.
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