@strypey Yes, RMS has made an outstanding positive contribution to the world. He has also made a series of negative ones.

That article is selective in how it reports "the incident", including reductively defining the whole thing as "an incident" in the first place. Other people are characterising it as the final straw, where no-one expects that "the straw" in and of itself was significant, but that the accumulation of straws over time has become intolerable.

There don't seem to be many people who are discussing the whole issue without bias, which is to me a much more disturbing trend. Once again we have only "two sides" to a situation, with all the implied hostility that brings. There are many many more than two sides to anything.

@yojimbo @strypey if you haven't seen it, this (from, ironically, an ex-Fox News guy) is the most even handed treatment I've seen: youtube.com/watch?v=7UbQ1kc1vQ

@lightweight @strypey Not a bad video presentation, he'll be worth keeping an eye on to report well on a lot of topics.

However both he and the WaPo failed to mention the long-term dissatisfaction with RMS's non-Free behaviour. I don't think the Gnome Foundation's ED asked FSF to drop him because of this incident alone (or more specifically, not because of the inaccurate press surrounding the incident).

I agree with @strypey on what I think his position is (assuming it's "this incident is not serious enough for the outcome"), but I suspect that the outcome is probably justified when looking back at the long list of "offences".

Partly I guess the dropping by MIT was more related to them having put themselves in an untenable position over the years. But the FSF presidency seems like a reasonable change.

@strypey @yojimbo @lightweight @mike
Crazy article, I did not know that when someone founded an organisation he should not step down from it at some point... Does this mean when someone founds an organisation he is bound to be the president of it for life, I guess I have to learn about democracy.

@strypey @natacha This would be a devastating critique were it not for the fact that RMS has been doing this for 30 years.

One should not be judged a misogynist from a single ill-judged remark.

But if your response to people asking you not to ask conference attendees whether they'll date you is to have business cards saying words to the effect of “would you like me to fuck you?” in florid language and handing them out instead… maybe that's not a single ill-judged remark?

@RAOF @strypey @natacha But then he should be criticized for that, not accused of things he didn't say.

@grainloom @strypey @natacha
1) He was criticized for that over and over, and
2) I don't think he was accused of things he didn't say. Although some nuance was lost, what he said was: “The most plausible scenario is that [the 17-year-old sex-trafficing-victim] appeared entirely willing [to have sex with the 73-year old Minsky after having been flown with him on a private jet to a private island]”.

@grainloom @strypey @natacha I find the idea that Minsky just couldn't possibly find anything sufficiently unusual in this to raise his suspicions that the girl in question wasn't enthusiastically consenting to be entirely implausible.

This is a supportable (and, I think, most plausible) reading of the Medium article.

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