good post about how nerd communities' mass-adoption of the closed and proprietary Discord platform will inevitably lead to the long-term loss of (or loss of access to) mountains of special-interest group knowledge and community history

"TLDR; It is not a very future-proof way of knowledge-building & archiving at all."

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the more i zoom out of Discord's trash interface / decrease its font size the more useable (or at least tolerable?) it becomes 

today we have very high-res screens that can show a lot of information. i usually like to use it and minimize scrolling.

this feels contrary to a visual design zeitgeist that abhors compact presentation in favor of large blocks of color ("beautiful" apps? lol get out of here) and decreased information density

anyway, gonna try installing Better Discord again

tried Better Discord. the featureset is underwhelming. the only useful tweak for me was it can shrink the serverlist-icon sidebar on the left down by like 400%, so all the big circles become tiny little circles. does nothin' for legibility but lets you fit a lot more onscreen, which i prefer.

that's good but i honestly expected more breadth and depth from something called Better Discord

ah so i spoke without considering Better Discord's support for theming and plugins, of which there appear to be quite a few

now i'm feelin' it more

@gatewave should probably be paired with a discussion about the closed and proprietary wiki platform that too many communities have built their knowledge bases on

@fraggle yeah, good point and analogous to some degree.

unless i misunderstand though, at least their text and images are on the open web, and thus scraped by search engines and

@gatewave sure. in fact, i'd say that a big part of their advertising revenue comes from click throughs from search engines.

If you're ever curious why search results show two different Doom Wikis, it's because we made a big mistake way back in 2005 in adopting what is now called "Fandom".

They're more than happy to make money off your community's unpaid work and they absolutely are not interested in stopping if you decide to move elsewhere

@fraggle yeah, i'm familiar with that history :(

when seeking doom wiki info i always look for hissy! ensures i'm on the right one.

@gatewave gee, it's almost like using a product marketed at The Online Gamerz as a means by which to centralize one's social groups Is Bad, Actually. :thinkingmarx:

@gatewave this 1000%. it is really troubling that so many communities now are built on a foundation of proprietary quicksand. similar deal with Slack. these platforms tend to be harder to search for things in than the average forum, so there's more of a sense of collective amnesia. open source seems to be stepping up with things like but hosting is a huge challenge and that's what the discords of the world are selling people with the convenience of.

@povoq Something I find fascinating about Discord is that it has set up a weird kind of proprietary decentralization. Instead of having de facto hubs for content, you have relatively smaller communities around streamers or individual games where the information is stratified and isolated even across people in the fandom.

@hhardy01 @gatewave I use Discord as an artist. Posting images, GIFs, videos, all inline with the text. This is the power of Discord to me.

@gatewave i think you have to be able to write css yourself for that sort of thing

@zoe oh right, it does have a custom CSS field. good point. i should look around for how folks use that.

@gatewave for the record there are addons that are css specific

@gatewave There is something called Ripcord you might like? Discord implementation in C++ that takes a lot less memory and seems to work a lot better

@Canageek that sounds very relevant to my interests. thank you.

it'll be surprising if they so easily re-implemented the entire featureset...

@gatewave Voice chat works, text chat works, spoiler warnings don't work, that is as far as I've gotten. Oh and DMs wor

@Canageek dang, using such may lead to account bans

(humorously (?), the only thing of value i'd lose in such a scenario is the list of servers i'm on)

@gatewave I've been using it for a while without issue? But then again, I rarely use discord, so I might just not have attracted enough attention?

I mean, if I get banned I'll just make a new account, natch?

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