the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
Guess we might as well post this publicly.
We attempted to return to our old friends on the SCP Wiki last night, to whom we had not talked in about a year. Instead, we got snipped at for referring to ourselves in the plural, and told that it was "extremely disruptive"; further events we uncovered thereafter indicated that this community is just really hostile to pluralfolk and effectively has "no plurals allowed" as a de-facto community policy.
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
To be specific, you can't use one account because they'll get mad if you ever refer to there being others using the same one; you also can't use multiple accounts because that's "one person using more than one account" in their eyes. Cute little catch-22 there.
A month ago, they banned someone else for being plural too: http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-12642041/nixie
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
It's pretty clear to us, speaking as someones who have previously spent about two years around (and in the good graces of) the staff, that they just don't believe that pluralfolk are legitimate and think we must be just making it up for attention, or perhaps too dangerously insane to be around their community. It's really garbage and we have little respect for them anymore.
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
In the linked incident log, a prominent admin states their opinions pretty bluntly:
"I'm going to simply state this and there will be no argument to it we will entertain. If you occupy the same physical body, chatstaff will be treating you as a single person within our chat. What you do on your own time is up to you. This is non-negotiable. We have voted and decided that no further references [to being plural] will be tolerated."
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
Since this statement is based on ideas that are just factually not accurate and indicates extreme hostility to further conversation, there's plainly nothing more for us to do here. We'll be deleting our Wikidot account and no longer recommend this community as a safe haven to anyone, plural or otherwise.
They can all rot in hell.
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
More broadly speaking, this seems to arise from a long-standing frustration with newbies mistaking the site for a roleplay community, and so they have a sort of knee-jerk reaction to crack down on anyone saying things like "I am not human" or otherwise indicating neuroatypicality in a context that is not strictly medical, because they assume that any such is an attempt at childish roleplaying.
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
This is a fantastic example of how not to handle a persistent community problem:
Get continuously more angry about it over time until the slightest hint of it sets you off and makes your reasoning shut down. Stonewall anyone who suggests you might be doing it wrong, because they're probably just trying to weasel their way out of trouble. Enforce your own thought patterns as the only valid ones and reject all others.
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
So anyway yes, this has been our "surprise, these people you thought were okay are actually horrible" for hopefully the year
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
@diodelass Like, from the chat logs I saw of the one system getting banned, they weren't disruptive nearly at all or dominating the chat?? that was just a few lines, chat could've moved on.
not only that but some systems could technically fall under psychiatric recognition because of DID, but not all systems are a result of DID. plus modern science has repeatedly failed to sit down and listen to trans people, people w/ autism, etc., let alone people who experience plurality. demanding official recognition is just a fucking excuse.
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
@babbage yeah we're out of patience for these idiots
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
@babbage oh what the fuck, there's some real nasty views on psychiatry here
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@diodelass that fucking sucks. I used to like SCP wiki.
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
@diodelass my knowledge of the SCP wiki is very surface level but I remember there being some kinda split a few years ago where the anti-SJW people created their own version of it (idk what they named it, which is good i guess)
so i would not have expected them to treat people like.... that
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
@grainloom oh yeah that was when they changed the logo to a rainbow including the black and brown stripes for pride month
a lot of fashy types got pissed about "politics and pc culture ruining the wiki" and went off and made their own shittier wiki
it wasn't that big an incident in the grand scheme of things, they've seen far worse
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
@diodelass hm.
this is why it should be easy to fork websites....
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
@diodelass not that that'd solve everything of course, but it would be a nice emergency measure
when admins of communities go bad, the communities should have an escape hatch. i've heard about people deleting discord "servers" out of misplaced anger.
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@diodelass I'm worried about what to say about this to a friend of ours who is really into SCP stuff... :x is "the SCP wiki" a distinct Thing from the whole SCP concept?
re: the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
@Felthry No. they are the very same.
As we have said, this only applies to community admin, not the authors themselves. We think reading the articles will still be enjoyable to us; we just can't participate in the community ourselves.
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@diodelass I feel like it's still something they should be aware of though... don't know how to bring that up though :x should I just mention them here maybe or. I don't know, social is hard. Sorry for rambling at you a bit there
re: the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
@Felthry yeah, worth mentioning at least.
the SCP wiki community is no longer hostile to pluralfolk?
@diodelass sorry for the big necro, but just found out that they had officially changed policy on this to something reasonable by Feb 2020: http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-12880038
i didn't find any further relevant public logs for "plural" or "multiple system". (nixie's case hasn't repeated for anyone else. if plural systems have been active in the SCP community since this policy change, they haven't affected public disciplinary reports.)
the SCP wiki community is no longer hostile to pluralfolk?
@bb010g yeah, we saw this. the letter we wrote never even reached them; they just figured it out on their own, probably because they found out that some of their own longtime members were plural.
we still haven't really been back.
the SCP wiki community is hostile to pluralfolk
@diodelass I also just personally hopped into chat to ask them for an official stance, and..
I don't know what to say? This is just severely disappointing. I really liked their project before this and I'm just.. UGH