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@chr why do people always want to take the micro out of microblogging on a microblogging platform

@gargron @chr if the average blogpost is 4096000 characters than that limit is still a microblogpost

@Gargron @chr why do platform builders build open platforms and then get surprised when they get used in ways other than intended? ;)

@Gargron @chr

while this is a good question, I feel compelled to point out that 'micro' is relative regardless

@gargron longform content is sometimes desirable?

the alternative is hosting a second instance alongside this one with a modded ui that accomodates longer posts better but i really don't have the free time to hack on that

@chr people could post on wordpress or ghost and link to that..

@Gargron @chr Nobody ever clicked blog post links when I used to bother with it. People just don't want to load up another page (or app if they're not already in a browser).

@Gargron @chr for me, it’s not that I want to make Mastodon support blogging, but I want a blog platform that federates and supports conversations via ActivityPub

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i'm hearing some good arguments in both directions. to keep the discussion going, here are some other options:

- longer char count under CW, but it's more like 768 or 1024
- longer char count but you can only see it if you click a "read more" link that takes you to the external status view, like that one mastodon instance does
- secondary instance (lp.cybre.space?) that has higher char count and a modded UI to accommodate wordier posts

@InspectorCaracal @chr It's basically how Facebook does long posts except without the creepy, manipulative nonsense surrounding it.

@Riley @chr What *I* like about it is that it doesn't store the long posts on other instances

@chr THE LONGER READ BUTTON COULD BE "WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?" AND IT LISTS REMAINING CHARACTERS IN TOOT.

@chr do you have an example of the read more thing?

@nightpool trying to remember the name of the instance that had this, i don't think i've seen it since april

it was like, writing focused? and i think it had markdown support?

@nightpool @chr I don't think that's it. Doesn't look like it has Markdown or longpost support.

@chr perhaps instead of secondary instance, there could be a social sing in app level integration that people are given the option of posting through once the character limit is reached?

It could guide through CW and providing an abstract that fits Mastodon lengths and media requirements with a card style embed?

This could be expanded to create other card style apps, e.g. shared document (or media edit decision list) editor, events with geolocation, etc.

@chr if you do a secondary instance it should definitely be called emm386.cybre.space

@chr I like the first

mainly b/c I have no idea how the 2nd works. how would it work in apps? open external links in the browser? could have issues/inconvenience for people using mobile apps

and the 3rd sounds w a y too inconvenient

like sometimes I'm typing posts and then they end up being longer than I anticipated, and having to copy everything then log into another instance to post it would be hella inconvenient and cumbersome, especially on mobile.

@chr I think, for long-form posts, the best way to handle it really is to post a short description + a link to an external resource. The external resource could be integrated w/ mastodon, maybe like a markdown editor the way some instances have a sketch/paint thing, but I'd keep the longforms separate entities from the regular toots. I think they're separate usecases. You might want them searchable, or listed out separately, or w/o randos replies displaying under your essay.

@chr hey can I bug you for a moment to ask where I would go to modify the bio length?

@chr I've been thinking about it as an embedded HTML document, made in the editor. It's attached like an image.

@chr How does option 2 work with statuses set to follower's only?

@Dex that's an open question -- it either won't support longer statuses in that case or they'll be handled differently

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@chr I like this, i think it would help if the CW called out the length if it’s >512 so you can know what to expect

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