This is a great magazine about a low-tech perspective on the Internet; this article explores how Freifunk everywhere would look like, and would make 4G obsolete:

@b3yond now the issue here is, getting people to do that + having legal safeguards in place which satisfy everyone (I know people who just can't with the way it is or the way it could change back to) + having no bandwidth speed penalties with offering access (been there, done that, don't do that with 1600 ADSL). Reading into this tonight.

@ng0 Well, in germany the legal part is okay now, afaik - as the Störerhaftung is abolished. And the article offers limits for the open wifi as a solution for the bandwidth problem


In fact, this is exactly how it is being done, at least in #France, #UK, etc.

Well, sort of.

Your #ADSL provider will tend to be a company that also offers mobile service and the router that they “offer” you is in fact also a picocell, so you are providing mobile access to people in your vicinity, which is basically what it is being proposed.

Minus the part where someone else is charging people for using the connection that @ng0 @b3yond - 1/2

@b3yond we had contact in Brussels with the politics when the 4G was deployed, explaining them that exactly ... we where one of the first to deploy such mesh network ...
of course, it was not taken seriously, as the lobbyists where doubling down, pushing to lower emission standards and pretending the city would suffer economicaly if 4G was not there... so they did'nt listen, installed bad public wifi and 4G antenna all around with bad connections ... and our mesh network dismantled slowly :/

@Olm_e argh... I always think that such solutions would be normal under socialism... well, in Cuba it's pretty much what they did^^

@b3yond I think the situation in cuba is/was very different, even totaly opposite, and the "network" there is not such a pervasive one that could be done with mesh network with the support of public authorities and big providers... as there also, it is not an officially supported system, even probably quite trying to stay under the radar and unregulated, but then also unreliable and very fragile (ask @xuv that seen both and others) and in Cuba the goal is to actually have some network at all


Have been around for years in #Catalonia. At times, when #mobile coverage wasn't quite as extensive, their nodes were the only way you could access the #internet.

Browsing their site, it looks like on occasion they have even run their own optical fibre. 😜

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