nobody knows how real people live
people come into the puppy linux forums on a weekly basis like "yeah im running windows XP right now, Ive got 500MB of ram and an Athlon XP" or something like that looking to use puppy to keep their hardware going.
Every time some dev is like "nobody uses 32 bit PCs anymore just buy a new computer" i wanna fuckin scream
@dysfun ill tell ya what it *doesnt* have though is like, any SSE recent enough to run a modern browser lol
@artemis oh it is. I got a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W for early testing, and while the 64-bit desktop would nominally run, it swapped if you tried basically anything. And since a Raspberry Pi swaps to SD card it's so very slow indeed
@artemis Puppy Linux is still around? That’s super exciting! I’ve been thinking about setting up a live USB for the times I need to boot into Linux, and now that I know Puppy is still there I’ll definitely be using that
GNU / Linux is the best (and only?) solution to keep these old computers up to date and capable.
I've resurrected some of them thanks to that, both for budget and environmental reasons.
I share your screams!
@artemis maybe if more folks built their software for 32 bit pcs, i wouldn't be running gentoo on the old netbook
@artemis Everyone who just says shit like "lol buy a real computer" should be forced to do all their work on a Kaypro running CP/M 2 for a month.
@efi honestly im fairly confident a ti-83+ could handle running an email client if it had an encryption coprocessor to implement TLS
@artemis I know something like a zx spectrum can because it's actually been made for emulators, it's just there was a discontinuity in usage when 32-bit started due to things like windows 3
@firstname.lastname@example.org Late Pentium 4s and Athlon XPs are 64 bit. No one has to use a 32 bit cpu anymore unless it's for some specialised device. You can literally get 64 bit computers for free.
@artemis pretty sure we've used antiX for that exact purpose h
have an older athlon xp 3200+ system sitting around and it absolutely flies in antiX, their package builds even target non-SSE2 instructions properly so stuff like firefox runs mostly fine on it, wild
@artemis “Future-proof your computer and buy a 3080ti”
Me who’s eaten rice and beans for 5 nights in a row: “ok”
@artemis especially ironic: I just took delivery on the Betrusted Precursor this year (it is 2022 for any spacetime shifters reading this from other vantages) which I had preordered in 2020.
It uses an FPGA and implements a "soft" CPU.
The CPU? Is RV32 (RISC-V, 32bit).
It runs at approximately 100MHz.
This is extremely cutting edge hardware despite the misperception of "slow" or "constrained" specs.
Tech writers and enthusiasts are the worst. It's like if you need a car to get to work and the only thing you can find any info about is custom hot rods.
I have a house full of computers I use for work and personal stuff. Pretty sure they're all 10 years old or more.
@artemis indeed, i had a home server based on 32 bit pentium 4 that ran on arch32, until its psu died
@artemis I always want to introduce techbros to the world of embedded electronics for this reason
its a realm where +20 year old processors, ancient unsupported compilers and RAM measured in kilobytes are considered completely normal
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