a lot of people my age don't have TV because we realize the value proposition of "wait I pay for your service, and you STILL advertise to me?" is complete horseshit
@chjara I'm in Canada but yes you need to pay for channels
there are some public access channels but the large majority require subscription
@SuricrasiaOnline the few times in the last many years I've been with my grandparents or watching hotel tv or something and there's ads, I have a confused bafflement like "how do y'all even tolerate this."
@SuricrasiaOnline same thing basically with newspapers and magazines. :)
They would probably argue that it would cost double if not triple more without ads though.
@SuricrasiaOnline At least back in the day, VHF & UHF channels were over the air free. Some still are, but everyone thinks they need cable.
@SuricrasiaOnline To recycle an old software quip:
TV is free only if your time has no value.
I've plenty of things I want to do. Television would only get in the way of that.
I quit sitting around for cable & broadcast TV 20-ish years ago, but I still get a lot of the best entertainment (and sometimes useful information) from recordings of it.
Why not throw out all art, music, film, sculpture, poetry… You don't *need* any of that. Just a grey cubicle with a little potato farm, a stack of paper, and a box of Bics is enough for anyone, right?
@mdhughes Go read Newt Minnnow's "vast wasteland" and Ed Murrow's "Lights and Wires in a Box".
Follow with doses of Mander Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television and Postman's Amusing Ourself to Death. Epstein's News from Nowhere is dated but still valuable.
Adam Curtis, Chomsky, Herman, and McChesney are also highly recommended.
@dredmorbius I'm aware of the arguments by sour old people who never ate anything but gruel, watched paint dry for "fun", and said "Humbug!" a lot.
I've also enjoyed watching Twin Peaks, Babylon 5, Dexter, Justified, The Wire, and Bordertown more than just about any other entertainment. A life without those is prison.
@mdhughes All of which are available on DVD. Often from your public library for free.
Or other Pretty Badass streaming services. (Note that I don't bother.)
Yes, there's been some good drama made. Some good documentaries as well.
No need to subject yourself to surveillance-capitalism devices, broadcast schedules, advertising crap, broken-by-design DVRs, etc.
@mdhughes It might help to clarify that by "television" I'm referring to a synchronous / simultaneous mass-medium video distribution channel based on scheduled programming typically targeted at a specific geographic area.
It need not be terrestrial broadcast (though includes that). I'd include cable and satellite delivery which are similarly programmed and regionally-targeted.
Media streaming, DVDs, and even to an extent video-on-demand ... differ in significant ways.
My sense also is that radio differs significantly from television in effects, though it shares many elements. Video itself is a significant factor.
@dredmorbius Sure, I loathe time-based advertising as much as anyone. But I've had a VCR since 1976 or so, and even easier ways to get the content without the wrapping since.
"TV" is ambiguously both.