@KitRedgrave One of the most influential American SF magazine editors of the "classic" era was a bigtime racist and eugenicist so there's a fair amount of that if you look for it.

@ghost_bird i mean

if you think humanity is a genetics experiment and not, like *people* that are deserving of agency

then you could totally see it that way

which is kinda disgusting

@KitRedgrave Or if you idolise "science" and "reason" without thinking critically about context.

@ghost_bird the irony

they did not think scientifcally and critically about science and reason

@KitRedgrave It's the cause of "engineers disease". Engineers are clever people who work with complex systems but don't need to examine the basis of those systems. That makes them suckers for anything that flatters their cleverness and looks consistent, even if the premises are bad. Hence basically every Silicon Valley fad, among other things.

@ghost_bird yeah. i am at the point now where i can't even consider my knowledge complete unless i know what the whole system is for and what the basis is.

just because so much bad has happened by NOT asking

@KitRedgrave "Sixth Column", by Heinlein?

(Although apparently that one was someone else's plot/original thing that Heinlein was handed and said "make this better and like actually pubishable" and he didn't actually come up with that.)